Psychology of a Market Cycle - Where are we in the cycle? | Financial Horse (2024)

I really like how they describe it… “The Feelings appearing as the Market fluctuates”.

As investors, we always get caught up in the day to day price movements, and lose sight of the bigger picture. This chart is a timely reminder than no matter how long the cycle may take to play out, it always plays out in the same way at the end.

So where are we in the market cycle currently?

If I were to venture a guess, it would be somewhere between Thrill and Euphoria.

A timely reminder, especially given the recent market melt-up in prices.

After all, the biggest crashes happen not when investors are cautious and fearful like they were in 2019, it’s when they’re euphoric and expecting stocks to continue going higher.

So as we continue investing in 2020 (and beyond), don’t forget to stop and ask yourself, where in the chart above do you think we are right now?

As the quote by Warren Buffet goes, buy when others are fearful, and sell when others are greedy.

Update 12 Jan 2019

Following some queries from readers, I figured I should probably add some justification on why I say that we are in the “later” stages of the cycle.

And in all honesty, it’s hard to predict with certainty where we exactly are in the market cycle, we can only make an educated guess as to the rough stage.

Some factors I took into account in the article above include:

1. Fed rate cutting cycle

2. Global PMI data

3. Global economic growth

4. US employment data

5. General Investor Sentiment

6. Global cyclicals price movement (points towards a recovery though)

7. US Stock Valuations

Of course, it’s all a matter of interpretation ultimately, and there are a number of factors that point to the contrary as well. It remains possible that we could be in the early stages of a new cycle.

On the balance of probabilities though, my hunch is that we’re at the more advanced stages of the cycle. Whether my view holds true though, remains to be seen.

Even if I am right as to the stage of the market cycle, when and how it ends, is anyone’s guess, and until such time, there’s still money to be made in this market. ?

Update 18 Jan 2020

So this topic really got me thinking – to the extent where I went and penned a full article on it to share my thoughts. Set it out in full below, you can check out the original post (with charts) here:

Is it time to sell stocks/REITs? Is a market crash coming for Singapore investors?

Now I’m not going to deny that the recent market rally has got me really worried. I get all the reasons for why it’s happening – US-China trade truce, cyclical rebound, election year etc, but it still feels like it’s coming too fast too soon. I’m sitting on huge gains made just over the past 1 – 2 months. It reminds me a lot of the Jan 2018 market melt-up, just before they dropped for the rest of the year.

Mapletree Commercial Trust is one of my biggest holdings. And when I look at the chart, I can’t help but wonder if the recent rally is sustainable. I bought this back in 2018 when everyone was freaking out over rate hikes, and it has gone from 1.5 to 2.46, or a 60% rally. It’s trading at a 3.7% yield (2% yield spread) and a 43% premium to book. Is this getting ahead of itself? Is there money to be made to cash out and sit on the sidelines for a year or two?

So I wanted to use this article to really examine the hard data, to understand if my hunch is right – is a market crash coming in the short and longer term?

And before we begin, I want you to know that no one knows the answer to this question, myself included. This is just going to be an educated guess based on data available. Anybody who tells you otherwise, who professes to know the answer 100%, is either (1) unaware of the fact that he is wrong, or (2) aware that he is wrong, but is trying to sell something to you, whether it is a product or his services.

Basics: What does the data show?

Let’s start with the long term chart for the S&P500. I love this chart because it really helps to put things in perspective. The current rally has been going since 2009 and is now at its 11th year, setting the record for the longest bull market ever. But of course, there’s no rule that says that bull markets must die after a certain age, they can keep going as long as people keep buying.

What about valuations? Traditional P/E is not a great metric to analyse long term trends because it’s not cyclically adjusted, so we’ll use the Schiller P/E cyclically adjusted price earnings:

Prof. Robert Shiller of Yale University invented the Schiller P/E to measure the market’s valuation. The Schiller P/E is a more reasonable market valuation indicator than the P/E ratio because it eliminates fluctuation of the ratio caused by the variation of profit margins during business cycles. This is similar to market valuation based on the ratio of total market cap over GDP, where the variation of profit margins does not play a role either.

Shiller P/E: 31.5( %)

Shiller P/E is85.3% higherthan the historical mean of17
Implied future annual return:-2.5%
Historical low:4.8
Historical high:44.2
S&P 500:3289.29
Regular P/E:25(historical mean: 16.1)

Long story short, Schiller P/E shows that stock valuations are really high right now. They’re 85.3% above their historical mean, and above the heights of Black Tuesday (ie. the great depression) and Black Monday. But it hasn’t reached the insanity of the dot com boom yet.

The thing about valuations is that even though it tells us that stocks are expensive on a historical basis, and will probably go down in the future, it does nothing to tell us about the timing of that crash. Stocks are expensive, but they can get a lot more expensive. Just look at the dot com boom and how high it went.

We’ll need to dig deeper, by looking at some underlying economic data.

Interest Rates

Some of you may wonder why I’m using mostly US Charts in this article. And the simple reason is that the US economy is the number one global economy in the world today. The Federal Reserve sets US monetary policy which sets the benchmark for global monetary policy. So as much as we hate it, Trump is right – the world does depend on the US. China is rapidly growing in importance to the world, and they will be relevant to this discussion, but they’re not at the point where they dictate global monetary policy just yet. That requires more time.

I’ve set out the long-term US interest rate trend below. Key takeaways are: (1) We’re on a 40 year long term interest rate cutting cycle (or bond market bull run), (2) monetary policy is going to be ineffective in the coming years because we’re already close to the zero bound, (3) this is going to spark a paradigm shift as the 40 year long term cycle comes to an end. With monetary policy as a tool likely to be ineffective in the coming years, the next cycle will likely see fiscal policy coming into play in a huge way (basically US doing what China did in 2008, huge government and infrastructure spending), which is going to be inflationary.

Market expectations as to interest rate policy is set out below. To break it down simply, last year the market was pricing in huge rate cuts from the Feds, this year – they’re generally agreeing with the Feds that no more rate hikes are required. This seems to indicate that 2020 would be at least relatively stable.

3s10s yield curve is set out below. The 3s10s inverted last year, which historically gives us about 12 to 18 months until a recession. There’s a lot of talk about how the yield curve is no longer effective these days because of how QE has distorted interest rates, but I’m going to skip all that debate here. Yield curve is signalling trouble for the economy going forward. Whether you trust the signal, is up to you.


The unemployment numbers really help to put things in perspective further. Say what you want about Trump, but this has been the greatest US economy in history. Just look at that unemployment curve.

Debt levels

Government debt and private debt as a % of GDP are set out below respectively. Key takeaway is that (1) Government debt is high, and (2) private debt is high but relatively more manageable. This indicates that in the next recession, government debt is going to be a problem. But again, it doesn’t tell us much about timing of the crash.


The CNN Fear & Greed Index is a great (and quick) way to check investor sentiment.

It’s now pointing at Extreme Greed, when just 1 year ago we were at Fear.

Anecdotally, most data seems to back these up, as all the shorts have been wiped out, and most bears have been forced to buy into stocks.

This is not good. Market crashes happen when investors are greedy and all-in, not when they’re fearful and holding large cash positions.

US PMI and China PMI

US and China PMIs are set out respectively below.

US PMI is recovering from its low, while the China PMI is at a 3 year high. This is generally bullish for stocks.

Other data

Some other bits of information that are relevant are:

  • China liquidity injection – China did a big liquidity injection on 1 Jan 2020, that seems to signal to the market that they’re going to loosen monetary policy in 2020. This sparked a huge rally in China stocks.
  • Rebound of Cyclical Stocks – Cyclical stocks (esp semiconductors) have rebounded in a big way. If this price action is to be believed, an economic recovery may be on the cards here
  • Donald Trump reelection in Nov 2020 – The biggie of the year. It says a lot about the state of politics when everything that’s going on in the global economy this year is preparing for this man’s re-election in November. But hey, I take the markets as I see them, and not as how I hope they will be. This man will do anything to stay in power, even if it means keeping stocks are ridiculous valuations.

What does the data point towards – Is a market crash coming?

Surprisingly, what the general economic data seems to be pointing towards is for a relatively stable near term. There’s no denying that stock valuations are high (from Schiller P/E), but this doesn’t mean they can’t go even higher, and in the short term at least, monetary policy and government policies are likely to be favourable to the economy. Don’t forget that it’s Trump’s election year, so he’s going to try to juice the economy as well.

I’m actually really agreeing with the market and Feds on rate hikes here –no rate cuts or hikes are likely over the next 12 months. This is actually great because it sets up a stable platform for the economy, as the rate cuts from 2019 start to kick in due to time lag.

The fact that sentiment is so high though, is not great. it indicates that there could be a mild near-term correction in prices. But my take at least, is that 2020 should be somewhat stable.

What am I going to do – Is it time to sell stocks / REITs in Singapore?

I love going through economic data like this because it really helps me put things in perspective. I started out with a thesis that stocks are overvalued and bound for a crash. Going through the hard economic data, leads me to think that the current rally may just be justified, and may just continue at least for 2020.

Don’t get me wrong, I think that this cycle will inevitably end. And when it does, it will end badly, probably the worst of our generation. The next recession is likely going to spark the end of this long term debt cycle (remember that 40 year interest rate cut cycle?). It’s going to trigger a paradigm shift in the global economy, and short term at least, it’s going to destroy a lot of portfolios who are sitting on leveraged long positions.

But my gut feel, is that we’re not there yet. So for the time being, I’m staying invested in this market, but gradually shifting towards more defensive asset allocations (Patrons can see my exact portfolio breakdown).

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I'm an experienced financial analyst and investor with a deep understanding of market cycles, economic indicators, and investment strategies. I've closely followed market trends and have successfully navigated various market conditions. My expertise is grounded in a thorough analysis of both historical and current data, allowing me to make informed predictions and investment decisions.

Now, let's delve into the concepts mentioned in the provided article:

  1. Market Cycle Stages: The author refers to different stages of the market cycle, such as Thrill and Euphoria. These stages are often associated with investor sentiment and can be analyzed using charts and indicators to gauge market psychology.

  2. Warren Buffett's Quote: The article mentions Warren Buffett's famous quote about buying when others are fearful and selling when others are greedy. This is a timeless investment principle emphasizing the importance of contrarian thinking.

  3. Factors Indicating Market Stage (Update 12 Jan 2019): The author provides a list of factors considered to determine the current stage of the market cycle:

    • Fed rate cutting cycle
    • Global PMI data
    • Global economic growth
    • US employment data
    • General investor sentiment
    • Global cyclicals price movement
    • US stock valuations
  4. Long-Term Chart for S&P500: The author analyzes the long-term chart of the S&P500 to put the current market rally into perspective. The article mentions that the current rally has been ongoing since 2009, setting a record for the longest bull market.

  5. Schiller P/E (Cyclically Adjusted Price Earnings): The Schiller P/E is used to measure market valuation, indicating that stock valuations are currently high. The article emphasizes that while valuations suggest stocks are expensive, it doesn't provide precise timing for a market crash.

  6. Interest Rates and Yield Curve: The article explores the long-term trend of US interest rates, suggesting a 40-year cycle and the potential impact of monetary policy becoming ineffective. The 3s10s yield curve inversion is also discussed as a potential signal for an upcoming recession.

  7. Unemployment and Debt Levels: The author considers unemployment numbers and debt levels (government and private) as factors affecting the market. The focus is on the potential challenges posed by government debt in the next recession.

  8. Sentiment Analysis: The CNN Fear & Greed Index is mentioned as a quick way to check investor sentiment, highlighting the shift from fear to extreme greed over the past year.

  9. US and China PMI Data: The Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI) data for both the US and China are analyzed to assess the health of manufacturing sectors in these economies.

  10. Other Relevant Data: The article includes information on China's liquidity injection, the rebound of cyclical stocks, and the potential impact of Donald Trump's reelection on the market.

  11. Conclusion and Investment Strategy: The author concludes by stating that while a market crash is inevitable in the long term, the current economic data suggests a relatively stable near term. The author expresses a cautious stance, gradually shifting towards more defensive asset allocations.

This comprehensive analysis provides readers with a well-informed perspective on the current market conditions, emphasizing the complexity of predicting market movements and the importance of careful consideration in investment decisions.

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